tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post3071343741626829876..comments2024-03-28T22:13:04.547-04:00Comments on Harvspot: A 1742 Journey On The "Francis and Elizabeth"harvspothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15733381818821830887noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-2914503132921573542024-03-28T22:13:04.547-04:002024-03-28T22:13:04.547-04:00Hello all from K. Koehler in NC USA. I have been g...Hello all from K. Koehler in NC USA. I have been given information from my uncle W.Koehler in PA that our relatives Johann Peter Kohler and Gabriel Kohler sailed on this ship. SO very interested in any references we may be given to areas our family originated from in Germamny. KKoehlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-71249659967589572682024-03-23T12:07:15.558-04:002024-03-23T12:07:15.558-04:00sorry the address isn't clickable. My computer...sorry the address isn't clickable. My computer skills are from someplace in the 1700s! You can get there by using the title Descendants of The Ship Francis and Elizabeth, Sept. 21, 1742 (capitals count!) KitKit Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483531311283485423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-41985794724204241252024-03-23T11:55:25.761-04:002024-03-23T11:55:25.761-04:00https:www.facebook.com/groups/219661903998398 Hi T...https:www.facebook.com/groups/219661903998398 Hi Terry. this is the address for the Facebook group page I created for the F&S, Sept. 1742, I will post the answers to your questions there. If this address doesn't work for you, please let me know. Kit Alexander, FTTKit Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483531311283485423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-4514983469038216162024-03-18T16:32:42.799-04:002024-03-18T16:32:42.799-04:00Hello friends - My name is Terry Zerwick. I belie...Hello friends - My name is Terry Zerwick. I believe that my 6g grandfather, Johann Melchior Shöner, and his family were passengers on the Francis and Elizabeth that arrived in Philadelphia in September 1742. They and the other passengers were brave souls indeed.<br />Does anyone have a manifest they can share with me or can anyone tell me about how many passengers were aboard the F & E. Thank you Kit Alexander for letting us know that your book has been published--I ordered if from Amazon and look forward to reading it.<br />Harvy, may I have permission to use the picture of the ship in the Harvspot in a book I am writing about my ancestors? Thank you to all my fellow time travelers.<br />Terry Zerwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14458732000986795369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-39362704777205106252024-01-03T08:53:28.910-05:002024-01-03T08:53:28.910-05:00this is so fascinating to me Christian H Yoder i...this is so fascinating to me Christian H Yoder is my 6th great grandfather. I can only imagine what that journey must have been like Hello all my new cousins. <br />Thanks for all the information Lynette Kirkwood Bittnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-54787150939869251012023-12-04T18:18:43.280-05:002023-12-04T18:18:43.280-05:00Hello Friends...They Shall Run and Not Be Weary ha...Hello Friends...They Shall Run and Not Be Weary has just been published! Check it out on the Masthof.com Facebook page.Some of you may recognize your ancestors. I hope I have done them justice. We would all be nowhere if that ship had not made it to Philadelphia. Full of gratitude! KitKit Alexandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-18504908746724694472023-09-23T12:30:11.002-04:002023-09-23T12:30:11.002-04:00Thanks for all your comments and for the creation ...Thanks for all your comments and for the creation of a FB page for all of us desdcendants!harvspothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733381818821830887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-39171110760930096532023-09-23T11:43:41.828-04:002023-09-23T11:43:41.828-04:00Imagine how awful the persecution must have been f...Imagine how awful the persecution must have been for these poor souls not afforded the liberties afforded us by the founding fathers of the United States to board rat and disease infested ships and leave beautiful Europe for a new world where they knew no people or the language.<br /><br />Quite a sobering reality to ponder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-11368427580741304332023-09-18T12:34:51.607-04:002023-09-18T12:34:51.607-04:00My Facebook Group Page (with Harvey Yoder's bl...My Facebook Group Page (with Harvey Yoder's blessing) is up and running. I invite all of you to stop in and say 'hello' and share any information you would like. Hoping we can get some conversations going about our various families and share any other info we may have. I have made a data base of all of the male passengers and their information. I will continue to add information as it becomes available. I would be happy to email anyone a copy who would like to have one. The address for the Group Site is: Descendants of The Ship Francis and Elizabeth, Sept. 21, 1742. Kit Alexander, descendant of Jacob Fridberg Email: Kla47a@gmail.comKit Alexandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-79433412155133817602023-09-13T06:01:11.034-04:002023-09-13T06:01:11.034-04:00His first property is in Upper Bern Twp, Berks Cou...His first property is in Upper Bern Twp, Berks County (PA). A stone house is there (Mill Road, Hamburg, PA) and an iron fireplace plate found with the date "1751". He soon sold that land and moved to land with fewer hills in the same valley, now Bethel Twp, Lebanon County. The first property had about 100 acres. The second had 209. And he bought a third property of 100 acres in the same township as the second. All three were acquired directly from the Penns.<br /><br />But in 1742 he arrived as a 22-year-old widower with a newborn and a 2-year-old. In Europe, he and his parents lived in several towns, moving as many Amish were forced to. So acquiring wealth would not have been likely.D.N. Kenagyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18148138692142535717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-35510425511078531452023-09-12T18:00:45.982-04:002023-09-12T18:00:45.982-04:00Where did he settle?Where did he settle?Kitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-79011994213781500222023-09-11T18:15:49.286-04:002023-09-11T18:15:49.286-04:00I am descended from Johannes Gnägi, another passen...I am descended from Johannes Gnägi, another passenger on the F&E, who later married your aunt, Magdalena (Yoder) Gnägi. Researching land records in Pennsylvania, I note that my ancestor built a substantial stone house within a few years of arriving and acquired more land from the Penns about a decade later. These raise several questions:<br /> - Did some passengers purchase warrants while still in Europe? If not, did they actually transport cash on that perilous trip?<br /> - During the first few years, immmigrants probably lived in the homes of friends or paid to live with neighbors. How did the majority of Amish / Mennonite immigrants manage those first few years?D.N. Kenagyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18148138692142535717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-13725350455267248462023-06-29T15:52:51.818-04:002023-06-29T15:52:51.818-04:00Tom, I am interested in what you have found on Joh...Tom, I am interested in what you have found on Johannes Gnaegi and Mary Holden Gnaegi. I discovered that there was a missing link in my family tree and found a journal entree from the ship I fortunately lost the link when my computer rebooted. I know they had two sons Christian Holden Gnaegi and John or Johannes Gnaegi who were on the ship with them before Mary died and was buried at sea. Then remarried Magdalena Yoder when they arrived in the U.S. would love to know where I can find proof of this information. It’s the one piece of the puzzle I have been missing to connect my ancestral tree. I would appreciate any help or information you could provide. Sincerely, Christopher ChubbChristopher Chubbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-14487959048656293972023-06-01T19:44:17.610-04:002023-06-01T19:44:17.610-04:00Thanks for this blog and everyone’s efforts in res...Thanks for this blog and everyone’s efforts in research of the 1742 F&E passengers and their descendants, of which I am one. I hope Ruby is still checking this blog because I am directly descended from Michael Plastcher and can share what I have discovered about him and his family. I have a photostatic copy of the actual list of passengers made in Philadelphia that I found in the Philadelphia Historical Society Library many years ago before cell phones…or I would have taken a picture of it!<br /> I am particularly interested in the story of family deaths on the crossing since I had not heard that before. <br />Thanks and let me know how I can help you.<br />Greg Plaster7th Great Grandson of Michael Plastcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07547075221741015313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-17135169271298711062023-04-02T08:49:23.108-04:002023-04-02T08:49:23.108-04:00Thanks for your good work, Kit, and I'll be ea...Thanks for your good work, Kit, and I'll be eager to read your book! The picture I used is a generic one of typical ships of that era, and I don't even know where I got it. Keep us posted. My email is harvyoder@gmail.comharvspothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733381818821830887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-86183850325306432722023-03-22T19:23:50.808-04:002023-03-22T19:23:50.808-04:00Hello to all you with ancestors who traveled on th...Hello to all you with ancestors who traveled on the Ship Francis and Elizabeth, landing in Philadelphia in 1742. I commented back in 2021 I was working on a book of historical fiction about my Fridberg family's journey to the New Land on that very ship. Well, it's been accepted for publication by The Mastof Press of Morgantown, PA, due to be on the shelves no later than July. I've done a great deal more research since 2021 and used it as the infrastructure for a story about the members of this family and their friends and all they went through to reach Philadelphia. The title, They Shall Run and Not Be Weary, is the third line of Isaiah 40:31. I think some of you might be surprised to find some people you know.<br /><br />Right now I am working on a Facebook page for the ship itself and hope to have a website before too much longer. Harvey, could I use the picture at the top of this page on these sites? Once the book comes out, I hope to morph these sites into one on the book.<br /><br />I hope to involve many of those who have a connection to the SF&E September 1742 such as all of you. Hoping we can use this site to share information and try out any theories on who did what and what it was like. Perhaps the sites will grow into an online community where we can share more about our families and ancestors.<br /><br />Having finished this project, I find it difficult to understand how they overcame so many barriers. But I bet we are all glad they did! Kit Alexander<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15940464047544040823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-20704529768953941702022-06-16T07:10:49.043-04:002022-06-16T07:10:49.043-04:00Perhaps the 1/2 was my grandfather Benjamin Weddle...Perhaps the 1/2 was my grandfather Benjamin Weddle. He was born on board.Emhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18249493139455481491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-6134524893279397252021-11-08T09:52:04.948-05:002021-11-08T09:52:04.948-05:00Hello Tom..I too am working on a fiction based on ...Hello Tom..I too am working on a fiction based on fact book about my Fridberg family which came to Philadelphia aboard the F & E in 1742,, Howdy shipmate! The only woman I have who died , beside the Pplatscher s, is Mary Holden wife of Johannes Gnage. Is that your relative? I also have Jacob Christian Yoder B. Abt. 1695 who also died.I’ve done a data base which includes everyone on the S&E and all the pertinent info. I could find for each man and his family. Would love to receive any info. You have and willing to share what I have. That goes for everyone who reads this blog . Thanks..Kit AlexanderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-35146181527059736312021-11-07T15:48:15.750-05:002021-11-07T15:48:15.750-05:00Thank you for your blog. My 5th GreatGrandfather a...Thank you for your blog. My 5th GreatGrandfather arrived in Phila. on Sept. 21, 1742 on the Francis and Elizabeth. As a matter of fact, his wife died on the voyage and was buried at sea. His second wife was Magdalena Yoder, believed to be the daughter of your Christian Yoder. Somehow that makes us half-cousins somewhere down the genealogical chain. I am in the process of trying to compile a book on all my immigrant ancestors, coincidently called "My Immigrant Ancestors". I am trying to devote a Chapter on as many of my ancestors who came to the colonies during that period of time. I would like to use some of your information and depiction of the ship if I could,identifying you as the author. It has been a real learning experience for myself. I'm also doing information on the ship "Charming Nancy" which brought another 5th GreatGrandfather, Jacob Hochstetler, to America in 1738. I will thank you in advance, yours, Tom Kanagie. tkanagie@gmail if you wish to converse.Tom Kanagiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676930680853551822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-632524171421517212021-04-23T18:03:31.618-04:002021-04-23T18:03:31.618-04:00The signatures for the F&E 42 can be found at:...The signatures for the F&E 42 can be found at: archive.org, search: Pennsylvania German Pioneers, Vol 1, pg. 336. Many of the passengers are not included on this list. Kit AlexanderKit Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483531311283485423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-18313081484043017642021-04-23T10:02:13.516-04:002021-04-23T10:02:13.516-04:00Ruby..Delighted to get your messagew! Do you have ...Ruby..Delighted to get your messagew! Do you have an email ? I‘ve done a spread sheet of all known people on F&E 42 and may have a bit of info. you don’t. Would love to learn more about Michael. Thanks..Kit了Kit Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483531311283485423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-79975388922206366932021-04-22T20:53:45.993-04:002021-04-22T20:53:45.993-04:00My ancestor Michael Plastcher came over on this sa...My ancestor Michael Plastcher came over on this same ship. Where can I see the actual list of signatures? Family Lore has it that both parents died of ships sickness during the voyage, and he, at age 14 was indentured to the ship's captain to pay the debt of the voyage. <br />Your story and information has been a real blessing!<br />No google account, sorry.<br />Ruby Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-34398222359256154282020-12-15T20:24:48.008-05:002020-12-15T20:24:48.008-05:00I decided a few years ago to find out every fact p...I decided a few years ago to find out every fact possible about my ancester Ludwig Jaco b Friedburg and his family. And they were on the F & E, 1742 voyage. I‘ve made a spread sheet of everyone on the voyage and have researched everyone. Many were single and I could find nothing out about them. Barbara, I believe said she is a descendent of Johan Peter and I found nothing out about him. I would love to have any info. about anyone on this voyage and will add it to my sheet, hopefully to share at some future date when I can figure out the best way to do that. Thanks. KitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-36952665840645335962020-12-15T20:15:21.695-05:002020-12-15T20:15:21.695-05:00Thank you so much. I have the ships list, but wou...Thank you so much. I have the ships list, but would love to see what my ancestor‘s written name looked like. His father was a school master so I am sure he knew how to write. KitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1433399787563379852.post-12428233721076405622020-12-14T17:49:34.897-05:002020-12-14T17:49:34.897-05:00This is for Kit Alexander, who asked for a copy of...This is for Kit Alexander, who asked for a copy of the ship's passengers. It's not the handwritten version but it's the closest I have at the moment.<br /><br />http://www.kichline.com/genealogy/kichship.htmSandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00228549552211394610noreply@blogger.com